Thursday, June 02, 2005

Criminals and why?

I read in the TOI today about a German lady [47 years of age] being raped in Rajasthan by two guys. Now, since I've read a lot about such incidences in India,I was thinking of why foreigners in India are subjected to such crimes. "Women-hungry-beasts" [I'll use that term whether it exists or not], did we run short of Indian women or did you want try something new? But seriously speaking, tell me men, what is it that you get out of raping a woman? Can't your eyes resist a beautiful woman? Or may be your eyes dont search for a beautiful woman. The lady in that case was'nt young, she's 47 years of age! May be your mum's age! Did you not think of the consequences? Or did you think that you are so powerful that you could get away with that? Now that you are sentenced to life imprisonment, you can spend the rest of your precious life introspecting your past. Maybe you can think of what your family would go through. Maybe you can think of whether your kids will look upto you to call you "FATHER" or whether your father would be happy to call you his son. Maybe you can think about the disgust your wife had to go through or the anguish the victim felt. Maybe you can think whether it was all worth it and feel sorry for what you've done....but its too late now. You've wasted your own life and have ruined someone else's too. Maybe now you can learn to respect women around you.
Of robbery and theft : Since the rate of our Indian rupee is lesser than anything else on earth [or so the criminals think], foreigners , specially westerners, who happen to carry pounds or dollars or euros are robbed off. Listen robbers, a foreigner would carry as much the same amount of money as that of a normal citizen. His/her credit or debit cards are of no use to you because you donot know how to use them or most of them are secure. But that does not mean you have to snatch a desi's wallet!

29 comments:

ada-paavi!!!! said...

this is truly a shockin incident, at a time when india is hoping to improve tourist arrivals. what makes it worse is that in india it is difficult to sentence some1 for rape, the victim has to go thru hell (during th trial) b4 a conviction. read india todays article on this issue a few weeks back.

Unknown said...

But did you notice that for the first time in our history the courts managed a conviction in just under a month. If only the law moved with such swiftness in case of Indian citizens too.... few wud dare to indulge in such acts in future!

Archana Ramesh said...

Srivatsan,
Thanks for the info, I'll try and look it up on the web.

Sumit,
Thats true. If only all the people in all courts had such determination to provide justice.

Smyts,
Yes I agree with you. Most people in Our Indian society have always believed that interefering in such acts would put them at a huge loss. The victim too would rather stay quiet instead of raising her voice cos she would think that she would not have a future if she did. Moreover, some people would even go to the extent of blaming the victim herself for the crime. They try to keep a distance from her, not all men would be ready to marry her.....but all that's changing now I hope!

Archana Ramesh said...

Smyts,
I hope you've got my messages. Drop in your mail address :D

Archana Ramesh said...

Smyts,
I got the mail. Will reply to it soon!

Game and Smyts,
I could not agree better with Smyta. One man can make a difference though it sounds a bit unrealistic. We form the world..we need each other! Though it might sound a bit philosophical, I believe that we are born because of a reason. Its just upto us whether we figure it out or not.

ada-paavi!!!! said...

@archana,
ur statement reminds me of aline from richard bachs illusions
'how do u know if ur mission on earth is over? if ur alive it isnt.'
@game
turning a blind eye is not the solution,we as educated individuals have a social responsiblity. if we dont do something then it will spread, it will become acceptable like how corruption is. it is acceptable because ppl dont like it but dont do anything about it, the same can happent with crime too. therefore we should do somehting, as a group, the protests in delhi after the mumbai and delhi rape cases are an example, but how come the same thing never happens with corruption?

Archana Ramesh said...

Utkarsh,
Nice to know your opinions on that Utky....how are you doing??
I read about the cases in Delhi and in Mumbai. I still cannot believe that the victim married such a degraded unmoralistic rapist. India is not an open society as we know, we dont have as many broad minded people who can take the issues in a logical way. Indeed India is filled with these uncivilised leaders who call themselves religionists. I dont understand why a republic, democratic country like ours needs a group called RSS/BJP who, in the name of religion and morality, preach 'satvas' that are unmoralistic. What a shame when an entire section of people follow these 'satvas'! There is no ideal liberalism in the country. A woman cannot wear the clothes of her choice in India, because the Shiv Sena activists believe somebody would be looking at her and thinking "I've got to have this girl tonight", and we call India a free country....what is it free from? Someone throws acid upon the face of a muslim girl because she isnt wearing a 'burkha'....what kind of freedom is it? Fundamental rights are printed on the back of every text book....but we havent got rid of these narrow minded fundamentalists!
If you think over it, you can see only thousands of such issues acting as a barrier. We have a problem with almost everything, dont we?

Indira said...

Archana,
Saw your comment on my blog, glad to be able to help.
You know, my sister lived in Bradford for 4 years, just two months back she moved to Melbourne, AU. I saw your location, wanted to share this information with you, I don't know why.

Chakra said...

to put it in one word: disgusting!

sathish said...

for one rape incidents happen not only in India they happen all over the world. from a psychological point of view the reason for a man raping a woman is not just because of physical beauty, it has got to do with his frustration also....
physical beauty plays a huge role in this as also the dress worn by fairer sex. not all men are matured to ignore after looking at the dress sense of a gal. some get to fantasis about it and its a kne jerk reaction which makes them to abduct & rape them. another reason is when a person is heavily drunk he does not even know what hes actually doing.
same holds with girls also. after a heavy drink they loose their senses and get along with some unkown guy resulting in being raped.

@archana
to add specifically to your point, you say girls are not able to wear of their choice, i'll ask u something. last week i noticed a girl with her bf walking down the busy street of b'lore in inner wear and a towel/skirt around her waist. the bf was very uncomfortable walking with her but cld not help it. what is that she expects by walking around like that??
accepted that in dance clubs girls are skimpily dressed but then thats dance clubs where girls come in cars & go straight inside and go bak. was it not that the girl in this case was not matured enough to know what to wear when shes outside....

Unknown said...

Archana,
According to me rape is more henious a crime than even murder. As in the case of the former, it is the sentiments and emotions of a woman that are affectted. As far as Indian society goes, she becomes the voctim of both the rapist and the society.
Any way on a lighter note, I read somewhere that rape is highly improbable because a girl with her skirts up can run faster than a guy with his pants down :))
I am able to relate with your sentimenst expressed in your post.

Archana Ramesh said...

Chakra,
Nothing can be more disgusting...

Sathish,
1) I'm not trying to degrade India here. I know that rape happens all over the world...but the rate in India is too high. I'm addressing issues that happens in India more because I happen to be an Indian.
2)Rape is rape....its a crime. Looks like you are trying to justify the man's wants. Beauty in a woman does not lead to rape. Only beautiful women are raped and non-beautiful women are safe? Look around, kids who are 3 or 4 years old and women who are 50-60years old are also being "raped"...though most of the times it goes unnoticed. Tell me, is someone beautiful at this age? Do they wear skimpy clothes at this age? A woman is not raped due to frustration. Rape happens just for the want of the man. Does a man being drunk justify the cause of rape? and if a girl gets along with some unknown guy, its not called rape as it involves her consent.
3)Girls wearing clothes of her choice.....why not? Clothing is something personal....its of ones own choice, its ome's own freedom of what to wear and what not. Everything lies in the way you look at it. Clothing does not have to do anything with the persona of a woman. For instance women who were "fully clothed" were raped...not the ones who were skimpily dressed. Intentions have to be right when a man looks at a woman and if intentions turn out to be physical then the man is a rapist. Is a man a man if he cannot control his emotions and desires just because he is tempted?
Try and look at it from both the perspectives Sathish...try to think of what a woman goes through the rest of her life. She did not want it nor did she choose it. And because of a narrow minded society like this, she will spend the rest of her life feeling guilty....she will feel guilty thinking whether it was her own mistake that she was raped. And the man is let go of his crimes because he has a reason...and the reason is that he was povoked to rape her or because he was frustrated! We dont want a male dominated society...a woman deserves her respect and dignity and dont judge it by the way she is dressed.

Vasu the terrible said...

Hi,

read your post all be it delayed.

Where in the world does rape not happen ? It happens many a times within homes.

Rape is about power and not sex. Sex is the tool with which that power is enforced.

To address all men in one tone is a bit uncharitable.

Dont you think so ?

vasu

sathish said...

@archana
am not supporting rapists. infact sometime back i had posted that the sentence for rapists should not be life sentence or anything lesser. it should be harsh enuf that others dont do it.
why is it that there are more cases in India is because they are published in the media while in the west the media does not highlight this.
what i was trying to convey was that its pure human psychology that leads to rape.
a girl also needs a psychatrist consultant after a rape, to overcome all the pains.
i oppose a girl walking down the road in her innerwear just like i would oppose a guy.
letmme talk about what happens in companies, we call by the term sexual harrasment. how many complain. rape is similar to SH. what starts as SH later leads to rape. so, is that guy also not a rapist finally. but how many are ready to complain.

Archana Ramesh said...

Vasu,
We need people in the court like you :D Even if the woman is willing get over the incident, the society wont let her to do so.

Pranav,
I just wish it could reach those people. Yes, the problem is deep rooted that we are getting used to it. Parents in UK feel sad if a new born is a girl? I've never heard about this one.

Vasu the terrible said...

sorry, I did not understand. My point rape is crime. But to view it as purely a result of sexual gratification is a comfortable way of saying "Men-are-over-sexed". It maybe true but that has nothing to do with rape.

There are other simpler ways to relieve oneself. I am saying there are many decent folks who live within the law but have a harmonal overdrive and have a huge sexual appetite. Please donot reduce this to a debate on morality and sexuality.

Maybe I did not adequately sympathise with the plight of the lady. I am sorry for that and definitely the crime should be maximum because its a power game and not a sex crime alone.

vasu

Archana Ramesh said...

Vasu....the terrible?,
Not all men....I was addressing men who disrespect a woman. I know there are good men like you in the world.

Sathish,
I dont think that there are more rape cases in the rest of the world than in India. Here in the west, for example, rape is not as common as in India. It isnt that the media dont cover them. Its just that they dont feel the need to rape. If a guy asks a girl here, she would oblige if she is interested. If she is not interested the guy will go and find someother girl unlike India. We are a country with high moral standards and rich traditions. We wouldn't consider such a thing moralistic whereas here sex is nothing but necessary fun.
Yes, women need guts to come forward and complain. How many women would complain if the society looks down on her? But its nice to see the change now..
If it is human psychology that leads to rape, then it is human psychology that controls the mind too.

Archana Ramesh said...

Vasu the terrible,
I understand what you are talking about. These decent folks who live within the law but still have negative thoughts in mind are no less. Yes, I agree its a power game too, where the opposite sex tries to control the fairer sex. But its just soo inhuman!

sathish said...

@archana
xactly, its human psychology that controls the mind. for every action you do there is a psyche behind it.

Archana Ramesh said...

Smyts,
The last line is a shocker....nevertheless rapists deserve it. mY mum's given me right lessons......u know what! And my brother taught me a bit of Karate.......I can ask Han to teach me taichi ;D

Vasu the terrible said...

I agree with smyta's line of argument. She talks less of sex and more of psychology and sociology.

Rape triggers from a desire to assert suppremacy over the other.

In villages rape is used as a legitmate tool of oppression over lower caste women and people who commit such crimes donot even feel that it is wrong. For them it is birth right.

The west has also a high degree of rape victims. I have lived a significant part of my life there.. 4 years.. and have seen a lot of such cases come out.

I dont think there is a race diference on rape. It happens everywhere and even inside family members.

Forced sex happens within marriage also. One should fight and deplore forced sex and not sex.


my thoughts

vasu

Archana Ramesh said...

Smyts and Vasu [the terrible] ,
Interesting there, a lot that I should know :)

Vivhyd said...

Rape is a stigma on our society - no doubt about that.. The influx of western ideas further complicates that.. as smytha rightly pointed out.. A simple look at today's films would suggest that too..

But as sumit pointed out.. atleast the conviction was really quick rather than dragging on.. but the outlook needs to change.. dunno how but should...

Archana Ramesh said...

vivhyd,
Yes, the outlook must change. Things cant remain the same forever....but it should'nt change for the worse.

Arch storm,
Every kind of rape is making headlines now. I am aware of such situations in not just Bihar, but all over the country. It has been at an alarming rate...but the women arent succumbing which is due to awareness and thats good.

Archana Ramesh said...

Everyone,

I didnot understand what the motives in the mind of a rapist are...which is precisely why I wrote up the post. And PHEW!!!! It created quite a stir! :) I, for one, with your opinions , have got to know a lot of things. The victim musn't be victimised over and over again by the society....the point I was trying make was this over the comments.

Archana Ramesh said...

Sheeshoo,
I thought the last comment I made would put an end to this. But when I saw the 34th comment, I was sure it would be yours...even more, I knew you would say this, again. Maybe I'd be an activist, not a political one at that.....but that has years to go!! Whatever it is, if I choose such a career, dont worry, I wont let you down....I'll do well ;D

Vivhyd said...

btw.. I blogrolled u.. hope u don't mind and I don't mind too if u return the favor :)

Art said...

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Vasu the terrible said...

Damm.. I thought I am fast as I post once a day.. but here you guys seem to be perinnially online..